gordian-mind 2 days ago
This title by Reason seems unreasonable. The man was convicted of "tampering with evidence". In other circumstances, it would have been perfectly legal for him to transport these pamphlets.

As it turns out, when someone (your wife) gets arrested and tells you to do "whatever you need to do" and "move whatever you need to move at the house", it is highly illegal to then proceed to do so.

Hugsbox 2 days ago
I totally appreciate this point, but 30 years????

Convicted murderers often get lighter sentences

gordian-mind 2 days ago
By tampering he becomes an accessory, which in some juridictions are punished on the same level as the principals. In this case, the principals have been convicted on terrorism charges.
voxic11 2 days ago
fwiw he wasn't charged as an accessory in this case. He was charged with "corruptly concealing a document or record" and "conspiracy to conceal documents".

In fact federal law provides that accessorys can't be sentenced to more than 15 years if the principal crime is punishable by life imprisonment (like terrorism is).

> or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3

gordian-mind 2 days ago
Thanks for the precision.
benterix 2 days ago
> As it turns out, when someone (your wife) gets arrested and tells you to do "whatever you need to do" and "move whatever you need to move at the house", it is highly illegal to then proceed to do so.

If it was my wife, I'd probably do my best to save her.

gordian-mind 2 days ago
This didn't save his wife. You are free to help your wife in non-illegal ways.
snypher 15 hours ago
I'm free to help my wife by any means necessary, thanks.
gordian-mind 2 hours ago
Would you kill? Kidnap? Crash a plane into a building?
Planktonne 2 days ago
Regardless of the legal justification, this is clearly a miscarriage of justice, and evidence of extremely unequal enforcement.
stvltvs 2 days ago
People quibbling about the news coverage only normalizes the unjust sentences imposed on political opponents while the felonious president pardons loyal supporters. It's not normal, not acceptable.
Hendrikto 2 days ago
No he did not. He got the sentence for hiding evidence. The article tries very hard to push an agenda.
adrian_b 2 days ago
Hiding evidence is the normal manner of conducting business for a lot of company managers.

Therefore the sentence seems unusually harsh in comparison with the lenience in other equivalent cases.

Hendrikto 2 days ago
It does indeed seem like a harsh sentence. Something the article could focus on, instead of being disingenuous.
AnimalMuppet 23 hours ago
Hiding evidence of terrorism is something that I hope not many company managers do.
kashunstva 2 days ago
The judge in these cases, Reed O’Connor of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas has a history of hard right decisions that are overturned on appeal. I don’t know what the options are for these protesters; but I imagine they stand a reasonable chance on appeal.
rmunn 2 days ago
The indictment can be read at https://media.freedom.press/media/documents/gov.uscourts.txn... if you want to see the charges.

And if the allegations about this being pre-planned (e.g., paragraphs 20 and 21 of the indictment) were supported by enough evidence to persuade the jury (and the jury was persuaded), then it's hard to see how they have a good chance of getting this overturned on appeal. Because unless I greatly misunderstand the law, in jury trials, as opposed to ones where the judge is the one making a ruling, appeal courts don't go over the evidence anew unless actually new evidence has turned up in the meantime (they don't "relitigate the facts", as I've seen it put in civil cases); instead, appeal courts assume that the evidence presented was factual, and what they do is look at the points of law that were used. Was the law properly applied? Were there mitigating circumstances that the judge didn't allow to be presented even though he should have?

And the law on things like attempted murder, or knowingly trying to conceal evidence when you know it's going to be used in a criminal case, is pretty clear-cut; there's not much room I can see for expecting the convictions to be overturned on a point of law. Not unless new evidence turns up that wasn't presented at the trial.

(EDIT to add: Actually, I believe that even in civil cases where a judge has made the ruling rather than the jury, appeal courts don't re-litigate the facts. Just as with criminal cases, in civil cases the judge will say "Hey, if you had evidence to present against that allegation, you had your chance to present it at the first trial." Only if the evidence is truly new, or the guy trying to present it truly didn't know it at the time of the first trial (and had no reasonable way of knowing it), does the appeal court say "Okay, we'll re-examine the facts in light of this new evidence." Otherwise they say "Re-litigating the facts is not our job," and unless the guy can show that the judge did something wrong (such as throwing out evidence that by law he should not have thrown out), then the appeal court won't look at new evidence. They only look at whether the law was actually followed correctly in the courtroom.)

My source for that knowledge, BTW, is a blogger (now deceased) whom I used to read regularly; I'll call him Mr. Smith. He wrote some unflattering things about someone else whom I'll call Mr. Jones, saying things like "Mr. Jones was once convicted of perjury, so you can't trust anything he says." Mr. Jones sued Mr. Smith for defamation. Mr. Smith put every legal filing, both Mr. Jones's complaint and his own defense, on his blog (legal filings, unless sealed by the court, are public domain under U.S. law as I understand it). By reading those filings, as well as the judge's decisions (also public domain under U.S. law), I actually learned quite a bit about how the U.S. legal system works. Including how appeal courts work, because when Mr. Jones appealed his lost lawsuit (Mr. Smith won his case, because Mr. Jones really had been convicted of perjury some thirty years back, sometime in the 1970s or 1980s, and under US law truth is an absolute defense against defamation — which is not the case in all countries, but is the case in the US), Mr. Jones tried to introduce evidence in the appeal and the court said "Nope, you knew about that at the time of the first trial, so you should have presented it then" and refused to consider the new allegations that Jones was presenting.

sidewndr46 2 days ago
Why in 2026 do these indictments have the lousiest black and white photographs ever? I've seen the high quality images in color from the government. Can they not be used during the grand jury process?
rmunn 2 days ago
The indictment PDF shows every signs of being a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy; it's not just the image that was poor quality. But our brains are so used to correcting for degraded text that we auto-correct for it and don't notice it. We do notice, though, when a photograph is degraded. I'm willing to bet that the original photograph was in color, and that the color photographs were what the grand jury was shown. But the copy filed in the archives was done on a black-and-white photocopier, and that's the copy that ended up in the PDF that Reason linked to.

In fact, I bet there are other sources where someone could find the original PDF of the indictment (the one that was NOT a photocopy of a photocopy): it was a pretty high-profile case, covered by lots of people, so I bet someone has uploaded the original to RECAP. I just grabbed the link from the Reason article and didn't do more digging.

Taronar 2 days ago
End qualified immunity for judges.
johannesberlin 2 days ago
Yet Americans have a felon as a president. What a sad joke of a country it has become
tastyface 23 hours ago
A felon who pardoned a bunch of cop-beaters, to boot.
vaadu 21 hours ago
Please read the comments in the Reason article. Autumn Billings has a track record of distorting the facts.

"Last Independence Day, several protesters were arrested following a demonstration that turned violent outside the Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Prairieland Detention Center."

This was not a spontaneous act. The Antifa folks set up a deadly ambush of federal officials.

ChrisArchitect 14 hours ago